Tuesday May 13, 2025

A mother’s intuition and a sister’s unexplainable spiritual experience drive the desperate search for Michael Keith Gorley after his Ford Explorer is discovered partially submerged in a pond on Wilderness Trail Road in Lincoln County, Kentucky.

Sandra Hasty and Jennifer Gorley Coffey take us through the bewildering days following Michael’s disappearance, revealing a web of suspicious circumstances that point to something far more sinister than a simple missing persons case. The timeline begins when two women with questionable backgrounds arrive at Sandra’s home to report the truck in the pond—women who would later appear with freshly washed hair, makeup, and clean clothes during the search.

The family’s account systematically dismantles the narrative that Michael was behaving erratically or intoxicated. His grandmother and two uncles confirm he was perfectly lucid when seeking help to retrieve his vehicle. But the most compelling element emerges when Jennifer experiences something unprecedented—a loud, stern voice repeatedly commanding her to “find Michael,” a directive that proves eerily prescient as contradictions in witness statements begin to surface.

Every turn in this investigation raises more questions: Why would the person who claimed Michael was at their home at 11 PM later insist he’d left walking between 8-9 PM? Why did the women nervously prevent Jennifer from approaching a shed and field area behind the property? Why did an acquaintance attempt to flee upon recognizing Jennifer? 

From a mysterious blood-like substance on the vehicle registration to inexplicable gaps in the police investigation, this episode exposes the frustrating reality many families face when seeking answers about missing loved ones. Listen as Jennifer describes the moment she’s inexplicably told to shake hands with one of the last people to see her brother—a gesture that will reveal something crucial about Michael’s fate.

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Transcript

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest00:01

so I was like, okay, so as I’m standing there talking to him right about this, the voice comes back to me again and I could feel it like right here, and it said shake his hand. And I was just like, oh, why do I got to shake? You know, I’m thinking this, I’m not speaking it out loud. I’m thinking why do I got to shake? You know I’m thinking this, I’m not speaking it out loud. I’m thinking why do I have to shake his hand?

Wendy LyonsHost00:30

Warning the podcast you’re about to listen to may contain graphic descriptions of violent assaults, murder and adult language. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to the Murder Police Podcast. The Vanishing of Michael Keith Gourley what Are they Hiding? Part 2 of 3, with Michael’s mother, sandra Hastie, and his sister, jennifer Gourley Coffey.

Sandra HastyGuest01:14

I told her never come back to my house ever again.

David LyonsHost01:17

I got you.

Sandra HastyGuest01:17

So when they knocked on the door, I said what do you want? It’s Michael. I said what’s wrong? She said well, I need to tell you something. So I let her in and this other one comes out. I said who’s that? Oh, that’s my friend, but I’ve heard I had heard you know, michael didn’t know this friend, okay. So I said well, I have to ride out there with y’all, I guess, which I hated to because I couldn’t stand neither one of them?

David LyonsHost01:48

Are they just bad news? Bad news.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest01:51

Well, the one that she’s talking about was in and out of prison, so anybody from this area would know that person.

David LyonsHost01:59

Yeah, we won’t name them.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest02:00

Yeah, we don’t mention people’s names, but if you’re from this area you would know her history.

David LyonsHost02:08

So you keep people like that at a distance.

Sandra HastyGuest02:09

That’s why I feel like something might have happened to Michael out there. Yeah, where the truck was in the pond.

David LyonsHost02:17

On Wilderness Trail Road. Right, okay, good deal, yeah, and again Lincoln County, because I don’t, yeah, that’s.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest02:24

And the friend that mom’s talking about. I agree. When I walked in her house to pick up my daughter that day, they did talk. And they’re telling this story and I’m thinking who’s this lady? I’ve never seen her before in my life you know, the other one I was familiar with, but the friend that she brought the tag along, never seen her before that day. It was the first time ever, interesting, interesting.

David LyonsHost02:48

Much after, and as time moved forward, did this new friend stay in the area.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest02:54

She’s deceased now.

David LyonsHost02:55

Oh.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest02:56

Actually, both of the females that came to Mom’s house that day have passed away.

Sandra HastyGuest03:01

I had nothing to do with it.

David LyonsHost03:02

No One was in.

Sandra HastyGuest03:04

Florida and one was in California when they died.

David LyonsHost03:07

Nothing without a lawyer, right? Right, you have the right to remain silent. Yeah, I haven’t said that in a few years, yeah, so, wow, okay, and that’s another thing where we’re going to get to on this is that you’ve got to wonder what information was taken to a grave twice now, because they would be central people to this.

Sandra HastyGuest03:29

I would imagine the one where the truck was in the pond. He was the first one to go. Okay, he wasn’t out of jail, not even 48 hours out of a heroin overdose. Well, jennifer had already heard, we know Well.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest03:49

I know, I say supposedly yeah.

David LyonsHost03:52

Anyway.

Sandra HastyGuest03:53

It’s hearsay.

David LyonsHost03:53

But probably late.

Sandra HastyGuest03:54

Anyway, Jennifer had already told me because a certain person told her Mm-hmm. Then I got a message from a certain detective that said someone’s host did.

David LyonsHost04:05

Okay.

Sandra HastyGuest04:07

I said overdose, he said apparently. Or they said apparently. And I said, oh well, the devil’s starting to jump on with joy tonight. He said yes, he is.

David LyonsHost04:17

Yeah, yeah. Well, the overdose thing is just such a real problem.

Sandra HastyGuest04:23

It is Any of them that died and did not tell what they did with my son.

David LyonsHost04:30

Yeah, I don’t have a lot of hope for them.

Sandra HastyGuest04:32

I don’t either.

David LyonsHost04:33

I think people who have listened to me before I don’t have a lot of hope for their spiritual condition. I just go into the grave with something that leaves so much pain behind on a family.

04:47

That’s a sin. That’s a sin. It’s an unforgivable sin. Now, god can forgive that, but I’m with you. They’re probably warmer than most of us are right now, too, for going like that, so we’ve got that. So what’s cool, too, is you’ve got a family witness that counterdicts their story, that he’s acting different and weird. That’s a pretty powerful thing. On this, state of mind and everything, and again that even makes it more of a mystery of how a vehicle winds up in a pond or the first part of the pond Exactly.

Sandra HastyGuest05:21

I don’t think he drugged the truck in the pond Exactly.

David LyonsHost05:22

Pond or the first part of the pond. I don’t think he took drugs. The truck in the pond.

Sandra HastyGuest05:25

Exactly. That’s why I wonder if something happened to him out there and they paid the one on 300.

David LyonsHost05:33

Yeah. You know, Makes you wonder, and you know I thought about it too the last couple of years. It makes you wonder, too, that people aren’t smart. You know it’s like did somebody try to put it in the pond, thinking it would sink and not be seen? You know what I’m saying.

Sandra HastyGuest05:49

I didn’t realize it.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest05:50

No, Well, the smell of the gas, I remember it being so strong and I thought I don’t want, I didn’t even want Mom driving it, because I thought this sucker, you know, one little poof it’d be gone. Yeah, did it look burned, or?

David LyonsHost06:03

anything, or like anybody tried to light it on fire or anything like that. Not from what I could tell. I think they did because at the back the hatch was open. Yeah, and.

Sandra HastyGuest06:12

I thought well, we may sink it so we’re going to burn it, but it submerged in the water.

David LyonsHost06:18

See, there we go. That makes you wonder was somebody trying to do something with the truck to make it unrecognizable? And I say that about water because people are stupid and they don’t understand how shallow water can be.

Sandra HastyGuest06:30

They’re ignorant, Yep ignorant.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest06:31

It’s the right effort? That’s a mystery, honestly, it is that truck would not have sunk all the way down that pond.

Sandra HastyGuest06:39

put it that way no, it couldn’t. It couldn’t the hood would have been showing A lot of questions around that right there.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest06:44

When I go back and think about it, like did Michael— I just have a hard time believing that Michael drove the truck in the pond.

David LyonsHost06:52

Honestly.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest06:53

I don’t think he did.

David LyonsHost06:54

And drove it and then just vanished. Did it right? I mean, this is the— Just vanished. This is the stuff I’ve thought about in the last couple years since we talked last couple of years, since we talked, is that it’s rooted through mine too?

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest07:03

But the only thing that makes you go hmm, because he did go to grandma, so he was aware that the truck was in the pond, any idea what time he was at grandma’s and he was looking for someone to pull it out, okay.

Sandra HastyGuest07:17

So I had went and picked it up. He was with the same two females that came to my house.

David LyonsHost07:23

Okay.

Sandra HastyGuest07:26

So that’s something that grandma or somebody at the Grandma’s house was able to confirm Well my grandma was there and two of my uncles were there.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest07:34

I talked to both of my uncles, so they both confirmed it.

David LyonsHost07:37

Oh, that’s, yeah, I don’t think we got that much detail last time, so that fills in some blanks now.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest07:43

Yeah, and so I’m like okay, I meanael was aware that it was in the pond, so we know that was yeah, that was confirmed. He wasn’t acting out of sorts, he wasn’t high, he wasn’t drunk, he wasn’t acting crazy that’s important, you know he was alert. He knew what he was doing so you know you have.

David LyonsHost08:00

He’s confirmed a lot.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest08:01

But then the question is well, who really drove the truck?

David LyonsHost08:03

in the pond it.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest08:04

It was in the pond, but who put it there?

Sandra HastyGuest08:06

I don’t think Michael did, I think they were trying to sink the truck, but it’s all in front-wheel drive, yeah, and they got sucked in the mud.

David LyonsHost08:13

Yeah yeah. Ponds are really spongy. They’ll grab a hold of anything pretty quick. That’s interesting. Like I said, I don’t know if I knew that detail from before that you had to. That adds to the timeline quite a bit. So pick it up from there. That grandma’s got solid witnesses, he’s fine, state of mind’s, fine, he knows the truck’s in a pond. Okay, where do we go from there? That you know of, that you know of, or what you believe happened?

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest08:39

So after we got the truck pulled out of the pond, I’m like we need to take this truck to my house. Well, for one, I was concerned, mom driving it. I was like we need to check this truck out. Plus, it smelled like gas. I was worried about it catching on fire and mom’s a smoker.

Sandra HastyGuest08:54

I drove it back there. You know, so, anyway, we took it to my house. Well, the it’s a pretty good stretch from Parksville to McKinney.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest09:01

Okay, so when we took her home it was getting pretty late and she had called when the two females had come to tell about the truck being in the pond. They had told Mom that they had dropped Michael off at this house on Knobloch Road.

David LyonsHost09:26

Highway 300. So that’s their statement, right.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest09:29

Because we were like, okay, the truck’s in the pond at this house, where is Michael? And they said that they had dropped him off at this house with a friend and he was with this particular friend. So we’re like, okay, we’ll figure out a way to get the truck out. So that’s what we did. After my husband got off work, we went out there. It took us a while to get it out. It wasn’t easy because he had to call a buddy to come out with his truck and they tugged and tugged and pulled and all kinds of stuff. We finally got it out.

Sandra HastyGuest10:04

It was 11 o’clock when we were going to your house.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest10:07

We drove into my house and then we were taking Mom home to McKinney and she called the person to let Michael know that we had got the truck out.

David LyonsHost10:16

Okay, so now we’re into 11 pm.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest10:18

Well, it wasn’t exactly 11. I think it was close to 11.

David LyonsHost10:22

Okay, yeah, I mean, you know ballpark dark.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest10:24

It was dark. Yeah, I mean, you’re a ballpark Dark.

David LyonsHost10:26

It was dark. Yeah, okay, and you make that phone call. Mm-hmm and Mom called to tell that person to let Michael know that we had got the truck out. Didn’t get to talk to Michael though, right, Nope, when you made that phone call did they say anything to you?

Sandra HastyGuest10:41

when you made that phone call, said Michael was there, right?

David LyonsHost10:44

Okay, we’re a good, great timeline.

Sandra HastyGuest10:46

But then the next day when you know, because usually he’d bring Michael home, you know, and Michael didn’t come home.

David LyonsHost10:54

Okay.

Sandra HastyGuest10:55

So I tried calling him. He wasn’t going to answer. Tried calling him again, Wasn’t answering. So I messaged him Where’s Michael Don’t answer. So I messaged him Where’s Michael Don’t know. I said what do you mean? You don’t know? He was at your house, yeah, but he left walking. I said what time Between 8 and 9 last night. I said hold up, buddy, I talked to you at 11.

David LyonsHost11:20

Okay.

Sandra HastyGuest11:21

And you said Michael was there. How did he come and take off walking at 8 and 9 o’clock?

David LyonsHost11:26

That’s a big contradiction.

Sandra HastyGuest11:28

Then, when we found out where he lived because we didn’t even know where he lived we went to get gas. It was called Don’s back then. All right, these two females just so happened to show up at Don’s. What are you doing? I said we’re going to go look for Michael. I said we’ve got to figure out where this boy lives. Oh, just follow us and we’ll take you out there. It’s almost like they were right there watching what we were doing.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest11:58

Well, they had called.

Sandra HastyGuest12:01

They were at Don’s.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest12:03

They said we’re at Don’s soon, so okay, so whenever mom, let’s go back to the phone call.

Wendy LyonsHost12:12

Yeah, because that’s important the phone call.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest12:18

yeah, because that’s important. Um, when mom called to tell this person to let michael know that we had got the truck pulled out of the pond and it was a little bit before 11 at night um, this person told mom that, yes, michael was there but he was acting out and he was getting on his nerves and that he was going to beat his ass and, of course, mom’s in the backseat because we’re taking her home.

12:43

I’m in the front and I’m like keyed in on this conversation, like you know, plus, I’m still, you know, a little bit not knowing exactly who drove the truck in the pond. I was kind of like how could Michael drive a truck in the pond? You know I’m how could Michael drive a truck in the pond? You know, I’m a little bit upset with the whole ordeal. Honestly, I’ve spent my whole Sunday pulling this truck out of a pond and I don’t even know what’s going on.

Wendy LyonsHost13:03

You, know what I’m saying so anyway.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest13:05

But this person told Mom that Michael was there, he was acting out, he was getting on his nerves, that he was going to beat his ass or whatever, and so we took mom home, dropped her off, got home I mean it was, you know, it was a little bit late at night and I had to work the next morning.

David LyonsHost13:26

Did Michael have a cell?

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest13:26

phone, but you didn’t hear Michael there. Yeah, but never heard Michael talking.

David LyonsHost13:29

So he never.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest13:30

Never talked to Michael.

David LyonsHost13:32

Yeah, again, that struck me as odd too. Like they’re adults Right. Talked to Michael. Yeah, again, that struck me as odd too. Like they’re adults Right.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest13:38

And again, michael did or didn’t have a cell phone of his own. He well, he had only been out of jail for five days.

David LyonsHost13:43

Okay, gotcha.

Wendy LyonsHost13:43

So, the cell phone that he had did not have minutes on it, so it wasn’t activated he may.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest13:51

I don’t know if he could have called 911 from that phone or not.

David LyonsHost13:54

Oh yeah, most of you can, but he couldn’t use it to call somebody. Yeah, I was just looking to make sure we’re clear on why. But the phone was in the truck, though. Yeah, yeah, I was just making sure we’re clear on why somebody was talking for Michael, which makes it even more confusing and difficult, because then you don’t have that last contact and everything.

Sandra HastyGuest14:10

Right so strange stuff.

David LyonsHost14:12

So he’s talking about beating his ass, right.

Sandra HastyGuest14:15

I know that the registration that I had in the console looks like it had a fingerprinted print of blood on it. And of course I, you know, took it out, put it in a plastic bag and I gave it to the detective to determine.

David LyonsHost14:29

Right.

Sandra HastyGuest14:30

So you know. I heard nothing about it.

David LyonsHost14:34

Yeah, and you know how that goes is that there’s very little they’ll share during an investigation.

Sandra HastyGuest14:39

It’s just the way it works. He’s not supposed to. I understand that?

David LyonsHost14:42

Do the police have his Explorer? Do they have the truck? Is that no?

Sandra HastyGuest14:47

It’s parked in my backyard. It’s still in the back door, gotcha.

David LyonsHost14:50

It’s still there too. Mm-hmm too. So um no but that came to take.

Sandra HastyGuest14:56

Okay, we, we stopped him uh, uh, trooper, in mckinney when we were coming out and told you know, explained to him that you know michael was missing this and that, and he told us he was getting off. Well, when we got the truck home and all that, and I get back to the house I called ksp again because l Lincoln County would not even take a missing person report.

David LyonsHost15:19

Oh, you called them and they said no.

Sandra HastyGuest15:21

They said no.

David LyonsHost15:22

Okay, gotcha.

Sandra HastyGuest15:23

Yeah.

David LyonsHost15:24

What did they say? Did they say because it happened in another county or he went missing from another county?

Sandra HastyGuest15:28

No, he went missing, lincoln County.

David LyonsHost15:31

Yeah, but they just weren’t going to take a report.

Sandra HastyGuest15:33

So they told me to call Kentucky State Police. So I did, okay. Well, I said I already talked to a trooper. Well then, 2 o’clock in the morning, here come another trooper, mm-mm. This man did not want his shoes or hat that we found. He didn’t want to process the truck, so nothing made no sense to him. I said how does a missing person make any sense to anybody?

David LyonsHost16:06

Yeah, let’s back. We might be having some blanks on this, just to keep it in line too. So now, when you go and you clearly, if you’re going to report him missing now, you are starting to think something’s really just wrong.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest16:17

Well, that night, even after Mom talked to the person on the phone, we still had no reason to believe that Michael was missing or in danger of any sort, or anything like that. Well, he’s in a double I mean, yeah, Michael could take care of himself.

David LyonsHost16:31

Did he ever come and go like that before, or is it?

Sandra HastyGuest16:33

I mean it, like you know, because as I got older I mean he might go on for a couple days, but he’d be back home.

David LyonsHost16:40

Okay, gotcha, you know he’s a grown-up, so again 38 years old, he’s a man. Mm-hmm, what point? What was it that probably tipped the edge for one or both of you, that now something is you’re going. Hmm, this is unusual for him. What was it? Do you remember what that moment was?

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest16:56

Well, it was the very next day I was at work and I had a voice that came to me.

David LyonsHost17:06

Okay.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest17:11

And I remember it, it was on my left side and it was kind of like very loud and it said find Michael. And I was like find Michael. Okay, that’s kind of odd. So I just go back to work. And you know, it said again find Michael. And I’m like, okay, I need to find Michael, I’m at work, I’m going to find Michael, I’m at work. You know, I was like this is kind of odd. I go back to work and again I said again find Michael. It was like very stern, like do this, you know.

David LyonsHost17:49

Yeah.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest17:49

Very loud, very stern. I was like okay. So I was like, all right, I’ll find Michael when I get off work, Can’t do it right now, you know.

18:00

And then right after that I was like this is kind of odd. So I called Mom. I said, Mom, is Michael there? And she said, no. I said, well, where’s he at? She said, well, I don’t know, he didn’t come home last night. I was like, okay, Well, Where’s he at? She said, well, I don’t know, he didn’t come home last night. I was like, okay, Well, what about this person whose house he was at? Is he still there? I know the guy said something about wanting to beat his ass, like what happened with all that. Did anything come of it, whatever? She said I don’t know, Let me see if I can get a hold of him.

18:30

And so she started calling and texting and trying to get a hold of this person and trying to find out if Michael was still there and whatnot. And I told Mom, I said, well, you see if you can get a hold of him, and when I get off work I’ll try to get a hold of my grandmother, my uncle, just people that I knew that Michael would be in contact with and see if they had talked to him or heard from him or anything I knew that Michael would be in contact with, and see if they had talked to him or heard from him or anything. And then when I got off work that day, I called my grandmother, called my uncle. None of them had heard from Michael or talked to him. You know, they had seen him the day before when he came out looking for somebody to pull the truck out of the pond, but they hadn’t seen or heard from him since then.

19:15

And so I called mom back and mom said, well, something ain’t right, you know. She said, uh, they’re giving conflicting information, changing stories about you know cause? She had talked to this person the night before and he said, yeah, Michael was there and it was 11 o’clock. And she said now he’s trying to say Michael left walking between eight and nine. I was like, well, that don’t.

David LyonsHost19:36

That’s a huge conflict that don’t even match up. No.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest19:39

That don’t even sound right. You know I was like well, we need to go look for Michael, we need to find him.

David LyonsHost19:46

Did that voice sound familiar at all? Was there anything about it that sounded like somebody you knew or known?

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest19:53

No, I’ve thought about that a hundred times, honestly. And I even talked to my uncle about it. I mean, did your daddy or mom have that talking to you? He said well, it’s probably your dad, and I said no, it wasn’t. It was not my dad’s voice, it was not Michael’s voice. I’ll be honest with you. I thought it was God talking because it was very loud, it was very stern and it was very loud, it was very stern and it was kind of like right here in my face.

David LyonsHost20:16

Yeah.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest20:16

Like do this, Don’t ask questions. It was kind of like that.

David LyonsHost20:20

Have you ever had that before or since?

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest20:22

Never in my life, yeah, ever.

David LyonsHost20:25

Yeah, I would never doubt that. Yeah, by the way, it’s just experiences in my life. I’d never doubt that. Yeah, there was a message there for sure.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest20:33

So mom had started calling around that day to try to get a hold of the person where Michael was supposed to have been at, and he was given conflicting information, saying that he had left their walk in between 8 and 9, which we knew now that we had just talked to the same person our mom had the night before at 11, and he was supposedly there and that he was. You know, michael was getting on his nerves and he was going to beat his ass. And now, the very next day, supposedly Michael left walking between 8 and 9.

David LyonsHost21:07

Gotcha.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest21:07

Heading towards Junction. So I told Mom to get a hold of the two females that supposedly took Michael to this friend’s house they have the answers and find out where this friend lived at, so that we could go there and look for Michael herself. And I do believe before Mom could call them, they called her, okay. And they wanted to know where we were at. That’s interesting.

David LyonsHost21:35

Yeah, yeah, I kind of thought and they wanted to know where we were at. That’s interesting, yeah.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest21:37

Yeah, I kind of thought well, they want to know where we’re at, well, we want to know where Michael’s at.

Wendy LyonsHost21:42

Yeah, you know.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest21:43

Anyway, mom said, well, we’re going to go look for Michael, we need to know where this house is. And they said, well, where are? Jennifer just picked me up and we’ve got to stop and get gas and then we need to find out where this house was. But when I had left work that day, I had to stop and pick my kids up because they had got off the bus at my husband’s aunt’s house and then I had to drive out to McKinney to pick Mom up.

22:13

When I got to McKinney that day there was a state trooper car parked right beside the road I had to turn on to get to her house. And before that day, as many times as I’d been to mom’s house, I’d never seen a state trooper in that area. So it’s kind of like, okay, you know this is a little odd here. So I went up and got mom and I told mom. I said well, there’s a state trooper down at the bottom of the road. I said, if he’s still there when we get back down the road maybe we need to stop and talk to him, just explain to him what’s going on about, how you know basically what all had happened up to that point and see what we needed to do about it. So we stopped and talked to that trooper and he took down information that we gave him about Michael. He asked a lot of questions. I now realize I think he was trying to figure out if it would be any of the alerts, if it would meet one of the alert criteria.

David LyonsHost23:10

Yeah, to take it up to the next level.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest23:11

Trooper Jonathan.

David LyonsHost23:12

Walsh. Yeah, very nice man.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest23:14

Because he was asking us questions like if Michael had any mental health conditions or anything like that and we were like no, but this is what we know up to this point, and we think something might be wrong, and so he took down all that information.

23:30

I felt better after talking to that officer because I thought, okay, well, I don’t know what’s going to happen from this point, but at least we’ve already talked to the police. So we left there. We went to the gas station, and that’s where we met up with two females. The first thing I noticed about these two females was that the day before, when they were at Mom’s house, they both looked very grungy.

David LyonsHost23:58

What do you mean by grungy?

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest24:00

Grungy, as in they looked like they hadn’t took a bath or kept their self very well.

Wendy LyonsHost24:07

Gotcha, you know what I?

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest24:08

mean. And when they met with us at the gas station, they both looked like they had been freshly showered, they had on nice clothes, they had their hair fixed, they had on makeup and all of this and I just thought that that was really odd.

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It was kind of a red flag for me, because I’m thinking the story they gave us that Michael was high and acting crazy and doing all this crazy stuff, you know driving the truck in the pond and they dropped him off at the friend’s house and this and that. And then I look at them and they look like they’re ready to go out for a night on the town, but yet they’ve been dealing with Michael acting crazy. It just kind of didn’t match.

David LyonsHost24:48

Where was the gas station at that you met him? Which gas station?

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest24:51

Well then, it was called Don’s Marathon. It’s changed owners a couple times.

David LyonsHost24:55

Is it right there in Junction City? No, it’s in.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest24:58

It’s still in yeah, between Junction and yeah.

Wendy LyonsHost25:03

It’s still in First City.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest25:04

Limits.

Sandra HastyGuest25:05

Oh, gotcha, not after you leave Baltimore, okay.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest25:08

So we stopped there to get gas Red flag right off the bat. When I seen them, red flag right off the bat when I seen them.

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This is two different looking people here from what I seen yesterday, you know. So, anyway, we were like, well, we need to know where this house is. We need you to show us where this house is so we can go look for Michael. And they started talking about one of the last people that seen Michael. I was familiar with the person they talked about because we had gone to high school with that person.

David LyonsHost25:36

Okay.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest25:37

And anyway. So we left the gas station. We followed behind them. They took us out of Highway 300 and Oblick Road, showed us where the house was, and when we got there they pulled up in the driveway. We pulled up behind them. Nobody was home, Nobody was in the yard, you know. There was like no activity going on.

Sandra HastyGuest25:59

I actually told you he wouldn’t be home, remember.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest26:04

So when we got out, mom first went to the ditch line on the left.

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And there was tire tracks in the ditch line and she kept looking at that, looking up and down the ditch line. Uh, on the left, and there was tire tracks in the ditch line and she kept looking at that, looking up down the ditch line. I kept wanting to go back towards the shed. Um, in the backyard area I don’t know why there’s there was a so like where the house was. There was this plank fence went around the house. There’s a wooden shed right here on the property. Behind that was just a huge open field. I guess maybe they planted corn there.

26:36

I believe it might have been corn because it had like the corn stalks, like when they cut the corn off the corn stalks were stuck out of the ground about that far, just fields and fields of that, everywhere so, and the grass and the weeds. You know is May Anyway. So I was trying to look behind where that fence was to see if I could see anything out through the field area you know, and I didn’t see nothing.

27:07

And I kept trying to go up towards the shed and the more I would walk up towards the shed, these same two females would just start talking really fast and just saying random stuff. Oh no, he left, he went going that way, he went to Junction, he did this, he did that, he had a pocket full of money, he had all this stuff. This one lady that I’d never met before in my life would not stop talking.

David LyonsHost27:31

So you think they were distracting you to try to keep you from getting up on the street.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest27:34

I think that she was, because she was just talking in circles.

David LyonsHost27:36

Yeah.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest27:37

You know, I remember her saying Michael had a pocket full of money, and I remember looking at her like no, he didn’t, because if he had a pocket full of money he wouldn’t have left walking.

David LyonsHost27:47

Yeah.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest27:48

I mean it just didn’t make no sense. I really wasn’t listening to a lot of what she was saying. Because, so I really wasn’t listening to a lot of what she was saying because, one, I didn’t know who she was and two, it was like you don’t even know what you’re talking about, because that don’t even make sense. You know the other one, that we knew who she was. She was acting really nervous too. Like I said, the more I try to walk up towards the shed area in the backyard, the more they kind of would talk fast and kind of shoo me back towards the junction area.

David LyonsHost28:15

Could you see any tire tracks coming up to the shed or out in that field or anything? Did anything jump out like the ground had been disturbed or anything?

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest28:23

From what I could see at that point. No Gotcha, but they stood right there to where I couldn’t really access it either.

David LyonsHost28:29

Okay, yeah, that’s interesting, very interesting.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest28:32

Mom kept looking at the tire tracks and the ditch line. That’s what she focused on.

David LyonsHost28:37

Yeah.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest28:37

And I was just trying to look to see if I could see Michael laid out in a field somewhere. Yeah, you know, that was what I was thinking.

Wendy LyonsHost28:44

Well.

Sandra HastyGuest28:44

I was doing that on the right side Because they said he left walking towards Junction. First of all, everybody knew Mike.

David LyonsHost28:51

Right.

Sandra HastyGuest28:52

If anybody sent him, they’d say, hey, you need a ride. Mm-hmm, you know, but you know. And then there, All of a sudden, here comes oh, excuse me, the person riding a bike back and forth, back and forth up to the house.

David LyonsHost29:10

Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest29:10

Looking straight at the two females Okay, this is an adult riding, or you want that’s different. Um, oh yeah, that’s different.

David LyonsHost29:23

So can we get to the shoes?

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest29:25

and yeah, sure, yeah, so it’s like two or three different times we went to the house. We left, the voice would tell me to turn around and we would go back. So each time we’d go back there was something different going on. So it was kind of bizarre, honestly. So when we first went to the house, nobody was there. The two females pull up in the car, they get out and they’re not really looking around or anything like that. They’re mostly standing in front of their vehicle, vehicle between their vehicle and where the shed is.

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I kept wanting to go up towards that way because I was wanting to get past the fence to look out in the field area behind there. And the more I’d walk up that way, the more you know, like I said, they would just start talking fast and not making no sense. Mom was over here looking in the ditch line so I was just like okay, well, I mean I don’t see michael here anywhere, there’s nobody home and they say he left, going towards junction. So I guess we need to leave and go towards junction. You know, see if we see anything down that way.

30:32

So we get in the car to leave, we start going towards Junction and we get between, like, past that house, there’s a driveway, there’s another driveway, probably like the first driveway down the road on the right. That voice comes back to me and it says turn around. So I looked at Mom and said well, I don’t know why, but we’ve got to turn around. So I turn around right in the middle of the road and I go back when we pull up in the driveway, that time the two females are still in the driveway. But now there’s another car there parked behind their car, and there was a person there that I knew, and I knew that they knew Michael, because we had all gone to school together.

David LyonsHost31:23

Is this a guy or a girl?

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest31:25

It’s a male Okay gotcha.

31:28

So, anyway, I was kind of relieved to see that person because I thought, oh, thank God, somebody that I know, you know, because the other two, oh, thank God, somebody that I know, you know, because the other two females I didn’t know them. I mean, I knew of the one, but I didn’t know her on like a friend level, nothing like that. The other one I never met before in my life. So this person, I was like, oh, finally somebody that I actually know, you know and can talk to. So I get out and when I pull up behind him, he sees me, he instantly tries to get in his car and back out of the driveway, which he would have ran into my car in doing so. Okay, and I had my kids in the car at the time.

David LyonsHost32:06

Did he say anything when he did this, or did he just see you in the boat?

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest32:09

When my car first pulled in the driveway he didn’t seem alarmed or nothing. When I got out of the car and he seen that it was me, he tried to get in his car and back out.

David LyonsHost32:21

Oh.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest32:21

And I said whoa, Wait, First of all I didn’t say this, but I’m thinking you’re going to hit my car. My kids are in the car. But I’m like whoa, whoa, whoa, I need to talk to you, I need to find out if you’ve seen Michael. So he got in, he was in his vehicle and I was standing at the car talking to him through the car window. He had it rolled down. I said have you seen, did you see Michael out here? He’s like, yeah, yeah, he was out here. And I was like okay, so I’m thinking, good, so he’s confirming that Michael actually was there. So I was like well, do you know where he went? When he left here? Did he say anything about where he was going? Who did he leave with? You know, I’m trying to get information out of him.

33:03

And mom was talking to the females at the time I don’t know what they were talking about and he was like, yeah, he said, well, he needed to ride to the store. I took him to the store so he could get cigarettes. And he said then I brought him back here and I was like so you took him to the store, so you took him to Junction. He got cigarettes and a Mountain Dew, I think, is what he said. He got you bring him back here, Then what happens? And he was like, well then, after that he just left here walking. I was like, but did he say where he was going? And he said he just left walking towards Junction. And I thought, okay, that don’t make sense.

David LyonsHost33:45

So he’s walking toward Junction City.

Jennifer Gorley CoffeyGuest33:47

Because it did not make any sense to me. Because if he had just gave Michael a ride to Junction to get cigarettes and Mountain Dew, why would Michael have him bring him back two miles, three miles away from Junction just to leave back out walking back towards Junction? That didn’t make any kind of sense. So anyway, he said that you know, michael was kind of acting up, that he was getting on his nerves, that he had spilled some Mountain Dew in his car, that he was kind of aggravated with him and stuff like that. So I kind of got the impression like he didn’t really care where Michael had gone to at that point because he had spilled Mountain Dew in his car or whatever. So I was like okay, so as I’m standing there talking to him right about this, the voice comes back to me again and I could feel it like right here and it said shake his hand. And I was just like, oh, why do I gotta shake? You know I’m thinking this, I’m not speaking it out loud, I’m thinking why do I have to shake his hand?

David LyonsHost34:57

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