Goodbye Season 9, Hello Season 10!

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September 5, 2024

Season Ten of the Murder Police Podcast: Unraveling Mysteries and Seeking Justice

As we bid farewell to Season Nine, the Murder Police Podcast is back with a gripping new season. Season Ten promises to be our most compelling yet, as we dive deep into unsolved cases that have left families and communities searching for answers for decades.

In this season, we revisit the haunting case of Letha Rutherford, a beautiful 18-year-old girl who went missing and was found discarded under a junk pile months later. Her case, which has remained unsolved for over 30 years, is a poignant reminder of the enduring pain experienced by the families of victims. Our interviews with the cold case detectives and Letha’s family provide a glimpse into her life and the tireless efforts to bring her justice.

But that’s not all. We also introduce the baffling disappearance of Timmy Sterner, a young man who went missing the day after his release from incarceration in April 2024. This case is filled with twists and turns, and as we interview Timmy’s family and friends, we uncover a web of possibilities that leave us questioning what really happened. Timmy’s family, much like Letha’s, is desperate for answers and deserves justice.

Throughout Season Ten, we continue to emphasize the importance of victim advocacy and the responsible handling of sensitive information. We steer clear of rumor control and over-theorizing, focusing instead on the facts and the voices of those who knew the victims best. Our goal is to memorialize these victims, shake the tree for new information, and ultimately, see justice served in a court of law.

In addition to these compelling cases, we also revisit some of our most educational episodes from previous seasons. From the intricacies of police polygraphs with Eddie Pearson to the role of a prosecutor with Lou Anna Red Corn, we provide listeners with valuable insights into the world of crime investigation.

As always, we invite our listeners to engage with us on social media, share their thoughts, and join us in our quest for justice. Whether you’re a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, Season Ten of the Murder Police Podcast is sure to captivate and inform.

So, grab your notepad, tune in, and get ready for a season filled with intense discussions, expert interviews, and a relentless pursuit of justice. Let’s never forget the victims and continue to seek the truth.

Listen to Season Ten of the Murder Police Podcast today!


Episode Keywords
Missing Person, Cold Case, Unsolved Mystery, Letha’s Disappearance, Family Search, Police Investigation, Rural Setting, Foul Play Suspected, Autopsy Results, Evidence Discovery, Canine Search, Forensic Analysis, Family Interview, Crime Reconstruction, Witness Testimony, Emotional Impact, Community Involvement, Search Efforts, Suspected Foul Play, Crime Scene

Show Transcript:

Warning: This podcast contains graphic descriptions of violent assaults and murder

Wendy Lyons: Welcome to the Murder police podcast. Goodbye, season nine, and hello, season ten. Warning, the podcast you’re about to listen to may contain graphic descriptions of violent assaults, murder, and adult language. Listener discretion is advised. M welcome to the Murder police podcast. Goodbye, season nine, and hello, season ten.

David Lyons: Well, Wendy, what do we got for everybody today?

This is the first time in our podcast studio I’ve set in new arrangement

Wendy Lyons: Well, David, we’re closing first, I gotta say this. This is the first time in our own podcast studio I’ve set in this new arrangement we have, and I. I kind of like it.

David Lyons: Yeah, you missed out when the detectives came down and talked about lethargy, which we’re going to discuss in a minute. A very unsolved, case for 32 years that we were hoping we get momentum. And that was the trial run of this, in case you’ve noticed, we’re getting away from the little wooden table, which served us well, but it was a little harder to work around and things like that. And this is. The feng shui is a little bit better in this.

Wendy Lyons: Yeah, I’m feeling kind of cozy.

David Lyons: Yeah, it’s nice. I dig it. I think. I think. I think it just looks a lot nicer for the YouTube elements.

Season nine of the podcast is now a wrap

So I guess we want to talk a little bit about, how we’ve done before when we. Season nine is now a wrap and.

Wendy Lyons: That’s right.

David Lyons: It’s hard to believe in the few years we’ve been doing this, that we got nine seasons that’s still kind of.

Wendy Lyons: We have ten now.

David Lyons: Well, yeah, ten, yeah, we’re on our way to that, so. But in nine, I wanted to go back and just kind of maybe talk about the ones we did and encourage our listeners and viewers that if you haven’t seen those or any of the other episodes, go back and binge. several episodes ago, we went to the full camera experience. before that, all the audio was on YouTube. And of course, we’re on all the platforms for podcasts themselves. So go back and pick those up, and we’re going to refer to some of them that are relative to what is going to happen in season ten on the style of case we take and the case facts.

Two episodes on what the police polygraph is and isn’t with Eddie Pearson

So we started out season nine with, an amazing two episodes on what the police polygraph is and isn’t with Eddie Pearson.

Wendy Lyons: Yeah, that was very educational. I learned a lot. you know, I’ve sat in that polygraph before in the academy and other times, probably. No, another times, no, other times, you know, sitting on that end of it is, It’s nervous. It makes you very nervous. But when Eddie sat down, he’s really nothing short of a genius. I’ll tell you.

David Lyons: I gotta be clear about this is that back in my career, I sent many people to use the box to the polygraph. And, I observed all of them that I sent. And I had an idea what it was. But in talking to Eddie, I really learned a lot. And I travel a lot, and I’ve spoke to cops all over the country that picked up on those two episodes. I know that other people like this because if you want to learn how to cheat a polygraph, you have to watch our two episodes. But anyway, we’ll leave that at that. You have to go back and get that. And, But I do know that a lot of cops watch it and they’re like, wow. And, I’ve always respected Eddie Pearson. He is a retired police detective and he does this as a civilian now. And, my respect gained about 100.

Wendy Lyons: Points at night just in his knowledge. Very, very knowledgeable.

David Lyons: And he’s coming back. He’s going to get in and he’s going to talk about physical indicators of truthfulness and, all the fancy names for that. So we’re dying to have him back.

Wendy Lyons: Yeah.

David Lyons: And I gotta add this, too, that, you know, when you work with somebody for years, you don’t always know them know him. But behind Wendy, you might make it out is a green background picture that Eddie painted of my horse George. Yeah. So he. Eddie, I never knew this, but he’s an artist and he’s great at what?

Wendy Lyons: He didn’t even realize that. He just picked it up. Yeah, I think he said during COVID Exactly.

David Lyons: So I’m kind of delayed in that. But that if you want an idea what my guy George looks like, that’s him back there. He is so.

Wendy Lyons: By Eddie van Gogh.

David Lyons: Eddie Van Gogh, exactly. Yeah. I think his hearing is still intact in both ears, though. But, yeah, he was something else. So it was one of those we like to bring cases to people and we like to talk, about how they’re done. But a big part of what we do is the educational piece.

Wendy Lyons: Yeah. Because so many people, or I didn’t realize all that went into that. I tell you, the other informative piece, you know, we had, doctor Greg Davis on talking about, you know, really what it takes to be a medical examiner.

David Lyons: Amen.

Wendy Lyons: But, yeah.

Louanna Redcorn talks about the role of a prosecutor in this podcast

And speaking of educational pieces, what followed, Eddie, was our interview with Louanna Redcorn.

David Lyons: Yeah, that was Louanna Redcorn’s a former commonwealth’s attorney in, this part of Kentucky. I’ve met her when she was a deputy or an assistant commonwealth attorney and actually went to trial with her on some

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David Lyons: of my cases. She later, took or raided Ea’s place. Unfortunately, he had retired and of course we lost him later. But Luanna came to talk about the role of a prosecutor. And that varies from different prosecutors offices across the country. For example, last, week I was in Texas and had some people with the Harris, county prosecutor’s office there. And they actually do investigations. Well, here they usually don’t. They have some things they follow up on, but they just give a honey do list over to the police department and say, knock this out. In other places, it’s more powerful. In other places. The prosecutor’s office is the one that green lights whether you take somebody to jail or not. So Luanna was, gave a lot of background on, what they do. And again, what they don’t do probably dispelled a lot of myths and urban legends out there. and also the idea that the rarity of women in that role, and she was clear to point out that women broke through the glass ceiling of becoming attorneys years ago. And that’s just increased. locally in Fayette county, where I worked, it’s hard pressed to find a male judge right now. And that’s a testament to people changing their ideas and their beliefs and letting people get elected for the right reasons and doing the job. so she spoke to that quite a bit of, talked about her. The, person that succeeded her was, Kimberly Henderson. Another, another woman took that role. The cool thing, and I think you got a kick out of this is, Luanna talked about her heritage with the old sage nation.

Wendy Lyons: Yeah. And we had watched the movie prior to her. Well, actually, you said you’ve got to watch this movie, so you know what she’s talking about.

David Lyons: Amen.

Wendy Lyons: And it was very long, that movie, like 3 hours. But it was so informative and really horrific at what the Osage Indians had endured.

David Lyons: Exactly.

Wendy Lyons: And Louanna, like you said, is, part of that osage heritage. And she now, in her retirement, spends a lot of time out there with them.

David Lyons: Exactly. A lot of education, things like that. And she went into the, what was neat is for her to go into the backdrop of the basis of the movie and the book that the movie was made from. And she has relatives that were, entwined in that too. But, it was good. It showed about the importance of when, law enforcement really puts their eye on a problem or have they turned a blind eye. And that’s one of the uglies in the history of american law enforcement is that, when I teach, I always say that we came from pretty crummy stock. and to see the industry continue to progress forward is nice, but that was a case where a lot of people had gone, dead, and, it was like, just wrote off and things like that until the. What was about to be the FBI came in. And she goes into a lot of detail on that, too. So that was super informative. Again, not in just what the commonwealth attorney does, but that. And, you know, there was one thing that she said when we were talking through. That’s in that episode, one of those episodes, I never forgot I’d mentioned how it was so different than what I got taught in school. And you know what she said? She goes, unfortunately, history is written by the winners. And that’s a perspective thing we all need to remember, too, is that, that was realistic. So, on the podcast, on our website, you can find a thing called murder police u. And I usually try to hike those educational pieces into it. As in murder police university.

Wendy Lyons: Right.

David Lyons: eventually, stand by. We’re going to grow that in quite a few ways, too. That’s going to become a.

Wendy Lyons: Get your PhD.

David Lyons: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Get your learning on cap and gown it and the whole thing. Learn about this murder police business.

Any unsolved case that’s accessible with new information is going to run

speaking of the business, the biggest part of season nine, as we closed out, was six episodes.

Wendy Lyons: Yeah. That case was. We’ve only done maybe one other that had as many episodes as that, but it was Letharford.

David Lyons: Yeah, it’s called who killed Letha? It’s a. Yeah. 30 plus, we’re, not gonna use a code case because the code case detectives said that they’re. And this is more than semantics, and I agree with them, is maybe we don’t need to coin them that way, because for the surviving family members, that feels like it’s like you’re lost. So they’re pendant. And I’ve said before, a thousand times before that. I know we call them cold cases, but, any case that’s unsolved is accessible with new information is going to run. So maybe that’s not fair to call them code. They’re older. I do know, too, that I’ve told. I just told a family that we’re getting ready to talk about here in a few minutes that, we all understand the importance of time in the first couple of days after a murder or somebody goes missing. But as frustrating as it is, time can actually start to be your friend after a while.

Wendy Lyons: Oh, yeah.

David Lyons: Because of what the dynamics happen. But, ah, go and listen to who killed Letha. It’s about a beautiful 18 year old girl that went missing, and was discovered months later.

Wendy Lyons: Yeah, roughly four months later.

David Lyons: Yeah, about four months later. Discarded kind of casually under a junk pile, which is just wrong. And so we interviewed, the cold case detectives. I just said it. The cold case detectives. I look at you, I look at me. There we go. Is we interviewed the homicide detectors, the homicides, the murder cops that are working, talk to them about the status of the case and things like that. That’s the first episode. Then we spent a lot of time talking to family and friends about who lethal was. And again, you get to know these victims. And that’s one of the things we try to do, is share that they’re not a number and they’re not a blurb and a blurry microfiche version of a newspaper headline. And that’s about what elite is reduced to after 30 plus years. But, we get to know who those people are, and, in that case, these people came forward. you know, one thing that some of the listeners that commented on social media picked up on. and I’ll explain this. We’ve talked about it before, that case. And like most cases, there’s a lot of rumors and ideas on responsible parties and, motives and things that might have happened in that case, they’re there. And you, when you hear us interview, you’ll see them lightly alluded to. But, we’ve talked about this before, is on, on the murder police podcast. We’re not going to get into rumor control, and we’re not going to get into over theorizing. And the reasons we’re not going to do that is that, one, ah, a lot of those rumors have names associated with them. And it’s unfair to informally and publicly indict anybody for something because, like any investigator will tell you, we all can be wrong. And so we make no whim of horror time. The second thing is that, there’s only one place that we want to see justice in. The families that we work with want to see justice, and that’s in a court of law. It’s not in a Facebook post, it’s not in an Instagram or TikTok reel. It’s not somebody blasting somebody they think was responsible or had something to do with it. That’s not justice. Maybe virtue justice is what I’d call that, but it’s ineffective. And the other thing is that it can run a case.

Wendy Lyons: Right.

David Lyons: It can destroy a case. That said, that said, that said, the, the tree got shook. And in those six episodes that went out, information, again that we’re just not going to talk about started to come forward. And I don’t think it’s enough on its face right now. But what I’m getting at is new things came to the surface.

Wendy Lyons: Yes.

David Lyons: we got a sense that people who may have been afraid 30 years ago to say things are no longer afraid now. And all of that, obviously gets turned over to the homicide detectives. So we’ll say a little prayer that maybe the, you know, we always say we want people to know these victims and we want to maybe shake that tree and get something to happen. So I feel pretty good that some of the information, as a result of just blasting the information we did got some people up off the ground a little bit.

Wendy Lyons: Yeah. And like always, we hope, most importantly, that justice is brought for her family.

David Lyons: That’s it. In a court of law. In a court of law. And we live in a world, and this is going to be critical, but I’m passionate about this. I’m a big victim advocate. We live in a world where a lot of people think justice is yelling in social media on your suspicions, which a lot of times leans into, and it becomes harassment of people who may or may not be involved. Tons of stories of where that goes wrong, which makes it look bad for the web sleuths out there that do good work, because there’s a lot of people that do incredible work, but they’re responsible and they’re restrained. we’re just not going to do that here. We’re going to memorialize these victims. We’re going to help shake the tree. I’m relying on a lot of many years of experience and advice of people who have done this for a living that we just don’t need to go there.

Wendy Lyons: Well, I think also what I found in that case with Letha and the one we’re about to talk to, is how important it is for those victims family and friends to be heard and to be able to talk about that, relive the memory of their loved one. but also to help seek justice, because these families are really, you know, they’re hurting.

David Lyons: Yeah, yeah. There we go. If there’s anything that should be put on blast, it’s the family and friends saying, this is who my loved one and my friend was. This is what they meant to me. This is they meant the world to me, no matter what walk of life they were. That should be on blast all the time. And we collectively should be thinking about those people and, encouraging people that might have information to come forward so that we get that knocked out. And you mentioned it, that’s season nine, that, six of those episodes were lethal. And we’re hoping that, justice does come and comes forward because that’s a beautiful family. I mean, they were amazing to

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David Lyons: sit down.

Timmy Sterner went missing in April of this year, 2024

And speaking of another beautiful, have you noticed how when we do these unsolved and these missings, we actually gained a whole new set of friends?

Wendy Lyons: We do. So I’m going to go on and lead us right into ten.

David Lyons: Yeah, do that.

Wendy Lyons: you know, I was approached, you were out of town. and I was approached by a friend that, by happenstance, was connected to me in several different ways. And she approached me one day. she called and asked if we would be interested in this case that took place in April of this year, 2024, and of, a missing young man. And I told her that, you know, let me talk to David and see, because, you know, you can sometimes need to know if it fits criteria or if it’s. If we can talk about it yet. And so you. I was so surprised. I had you on the. Only on the phone. Usually you need to think about things for a while. You know how you are to, I think I wasn’t even two minutes into the conversation and you said, let’s do it.

David Lyons: Oh, yeah.

Wendy Lyons: I was blown away.

David Lyons: It’s what I’ve been looking for.

Wendy Lyons: Yeah. And so the story of this is about a young man named, Timmy Sterner. And Timmy had, been incarcerated and went missing, the day after he got released in April.

David Lyons: Right.

Wendy Lyons: And so we have been on this journey these last couple of weeks, really interviewing family and friends. And we have talked to a lot of people. And, we are still set at this time to talk to his mother. but we have spoken to his father and his grandmother and his uncle and friends as well. And this family, just like Lethas, they, want answers and they’re deserved answers. This, case is so mind boggling to me, I guess, because there’s so many details that I’ve been involved in.

David Lyons: Yeah. Ah, ah. To let the audience know is going back to Lethas. I thought when we were. When we got done with Letha’s six episodes. And I remember sitting there every time we would interview somebody else. It’s like this road that has many whines and turns and I thought, for the audience, welcome to being a murder cop. Is. That’s victimology. If you do the job, you will have the same interviews that we had with these people and with lots of people. I would challenge everybody to go back and listen to Lethas and then listen to. We’re gonna call this one. Never forget about little Timmy. This is coming out very soon, and the episodes will start to drop. As you listen, get a notepad and do two things. try to keep track of his last moments, and then jot down ideas on what are the range of possibilities as to what could happen to Timmy. just like Kevin Kjack’s jackson, which is another one we did with a beautiful mother, that it doesn’t have answers. Just like with Michael, Gorley, another, beautiful family that doesn’t have answers. And I’m just going to hint them off to this, that one of the things about this case is just like those other two cases we covered. We have a solid last known location. Yes, solid last seen with, which means people who were seen with. And it’s more than one. We’ll stop there. but go back, listen to Kjax Jackson, listen to Michael Gorley, and start listening to never forget little Timmy, because that’s where the frustration is. And you can draw some conclusions pretty quickly about where that would go. But I’d like people to go on the murder police podcast or the murder police case briefing on Facebook or Instagram or TikTok or wherever you find your social media, and you’re following us. And as you’re listening, throw out your ideas. What do you think? What do you think the possibilities are? And because, there’s a range out there.

Wendy Lyons: There is. And, you know, when you sit down with each of the different people, I think what’s so frustrating about this particular case with little Timmy is everyone has the same ideal about what happened, and we’re talking to them separately, but it all leads back to the last known address.

David Lyons: That’s it.

Wendy Lyons: And it’s. I mean, you know, like I said, we’ve sat down with some of his family, and these people, obviously, like anybody would be, that has a missing child, even though he’s an adult. That family, it was the, interview with his dad was heartbreaking. And that family just deserves answers. And.

David Lyons: And those answers are out there.

Wendy Lyons: They’re out there. And, you know, nothing would. Nothing would please me more than to know that we had. I mean, I know the detective

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Wendy Lyons: has to ultimately work it, but nothing would please me more than to know that we helped, get the family answers, because at this point, they just want to know where little Timmy is, and.

David Lyons: We just need to shake that tree.

Wendy Lyons: Yeah. So shake that tree. That’s really a, I’m excited about.

David Lyons: I am this one, and I can’t. I don’t know how many episodes will be yet when you’re.

Wendy Lyons: Oh, gosh. We’ve probably already interviewed scissors and people. We’re not even near done.

David Lyons: Not near done. So it’s. It’s going to be a mini series in itself. And. And again, you. What the audience is going to hear is who he is, but listen closely, and, one, let’s care about him, and let’s care about that family. Let’s. Let’s be passionate about the idea that they deserve answers. And if justice is delivered as part of this, they deserve that, too. But, again, I would challenge people to listen to these unsolved and come up with what you would if you were the investigator, what were your emotions be. And whatever. Maybe we ought to get better on social, media.

Wendy Lyons: Yeah, I was going to say, I would love to open that up for whether people message us on Facebook or however you set up for them to contact.

Season ten of the FcC podcast is about to drop

I would love to hear, because, I’m sure most people’s minds work like mine. They’re hearing the story, and they instantly have questions.

David Lyons: Sure.

Wendy Lyons: I would love to know, what are your questions? Because every time I’m watching one of my many favorite episodes of whatever true crime I’m watching, I sit there and I think, I hope they’ve asked this, or I wonder if they’re going to ask that. And I think that was the catalyst to this pre. To, our podcast was because, you know, I’m so inquisitive, and that’s exactly what I take into all these interviews, whether it’s with the detective or with families, I always wonder certain things. So I would like to ask the listeners, if you listen to these episodes when they drop, and if you have questions, send those to us. it might be something that, because we’re pretty deep into this one, I’d say we might be deeper in this one than we have been in probably any of them so far.

David Lyons: You get in pretty deep.

Wendy Lyons: I would welcome outside quite questions. maybe we’ve asked, and we just can’t talk about it on our recordings. but maybe we haven’t even thought about that yet.

David Lyons: Well, I do know that a, lot of the people, we’re blessed, a lot of people that follow us on the comments that they make on social media. They’re really brilliant. And I’m not just saying that. I’m not blowing smoke is that, most. I think that our audience really does ask really good questions and pertinent questions and things like that. We’ll look at some ways to do that. You know, I’ve been playing with the idea of live streaming. We haven’t done a live stream before. Maybe we can wrap these cases with a live stream. So I’d really have to be on behavior. Yeah, well, yeah, I didn’t say you’d be in a room.

Wendy Lyons: No.

David Lyons: we can’t take any chances with the FcC.

Wendy Lyons: Well, thank goodness that you can read it. Read it.

David Lyons: Yeah. Well, when you. When I do yours, it is, like, ready.

Wendy Lyons: I mean, editing.

David Lyons: Cuss like a sailor. It’s on. Leaving New York. I mean, it’s pretty.

Wendy Lyons: So been on my best behaviors since we’ve been videoing.

David Lyons: Yeah, that’s true. So season ten’s on its way, and, it, it’ll crack out. I know these are kind of like evergreen, but it’s about to. The first episode will drop in about a week, and people are waiting for that. And again, let’s get to know who little Timmy is. And, let’s not forget little Timmy. And let’s. Let’s shake that tree. I know that this is local, but people are connected all over the country with one another. and, I guess what I’d finish with is, again, a sincere thank you to the people that have jumped in with us since day one. And you’re patient when we miss a couple weeks, but we’re putting content together in the background. We’re both really busy, so it was.

Wendy Lyons: Working in the behind the scenes.

Arthur: Please share us with your friends. So we want you to subscribe to YouTube

David Lyons: Next thing, amen. And, so we want to thank you all for the loyalty. Please share us with your friends. if you haven’t, go to YouTube and search for the murder police podcast channel. A lot of people, we have a lot of subs there. We’d love to have you on YouTube, too. Again, it’s a multi camera experience, and you, get to see what you’re missing, or something.

Wendy Lyons: I think helps to put faces with voices.

David Lyons: It sure does.

Wendy Lyons: and I think in these last few episodes, not that it hasn’t been the case with lethal or any other, but with this particular case with little Timmy Sterner just seeing that, the faces of his family, they’re distraught. And I think when you see that, not that hearing it isn’t, emotional enough but when you see that, you really. It resonates, to what they’re going through.

David Lyons: and also, don’t forget, too, that you go to the website murderpolicepodcast.com, and go down to the shop button. We have a merch store that. And I’m not pumping it just for that, but go get some fall gear for this. Hoodies and things like that. But the big thing about that is 10% of all the proceeds

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David Lyons: that we make off of that go to the DNA Doe project, which is really big to us. It’s big in our heart of the m amazing work that that project does. And, I’ll throw another shameless request, too. So we want you to subscribe to.

Wendy Lyons: YouTube and tell your friends.

David Lyons: Tell your friends.

Wendy Lyons: Tell your friends about this.

David Lyons: Well, and, we would, you know, if it’s in your heart to go to Apple and give us five stars and a. And a review if you’re down for that and everything, so.

David Lyons: Yeah, that’s. That’s a big one right there. Five stars and a review. We do. We. I don’t think I asked for that in the episodes, but we’ll ask you for it now. I’ll throw something in just this time only. Not available on tv or in stores.

Wendy Lyons: Buy one, get one free.

David Lyons: No, is it is. If you do throw us five stars in a nice review and a glowing review, email us at Murder policepod. Our murder policepodmail.com.

Wendy Lyons: Can you repeat that again?

David Lyons: Yeah. Murderpolicepod@gmail.com. and say, I just left you five stars on Apple with a review, and you’ve got to do that because we can’t tell you, Arthur, the user. And, if you’re in the lower 48 states, we’ll turn around and ship you a swag box that’ll have a.

Wendy Lyons: Listen you proof that they did.

David Lyons: No, I’m not. No, we.

Wendy Lyons: You’re going on the honor system.

David Lyons: Yeah, well, we’re trusting people, and these are people that listen to us, so that, we will just trust them to do that. But if you’re in the lower 48, because I’m not made out of money, I can’t ship things to Australia, unfortunately. Sorry. Australia or anywhere else. But, we’ll send you a coffee mug, a shot glass, some stickers, some magnets and pens, things like that. We’ve got little swag boxes that are just ready to go. So with that. Thank you.

Wendy Lyons: yes. Thank you so much. I’m so pleased that we’ve made it to season ten.

David Lyons: I am too.

Wendy Lyons: I never thought your idea of when you were out riding on the mower would come to be what it is.

David Lyons: Yes.

Wendy Lyons: But here we are.

David Lyons: There we go. Some of my best and cozy chairs.

Wendy Lyons: And not even at a table.

David Lyons: Yeah, we’re moving on up. We’re moving on up. So thank you again and, be watching for the start of never forget about little Timmy.

The Murder Police podcast is hosted by Wendy and David Lyons

David Lyons: The Murder Police podcast is hosted by Wendy and David Lyons and was created to honor the lives of crime victims of so their names are never forgotten. It is produced, recorded, and edited by David Lyons. The Murder Police podcast can be found on your favorite Apple or Android podcast platform as well as@murderpolicepodcast.com where you will find show notes, transcripts, information about our presenters, and a link to the official Murder Police podcast merch store where you can purchase a huge variety of murderous police podcast swag. We are also on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube, which is closed caption for those that are hearing impaired. Just search for the Murder Police podcast.

David Lyons: And you will find us.

David Lyons: If you have enjoyed this podcast, please subscribe for more and give us five stars in a written review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you download your podcasts. Make sure you set your player to automatically download new episodes so you get the new ones as soon as they drop. And please tell your friends, lock it down.

David Lyons: Judy.

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